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[aero_dienamic]

[[It has been a good couple of weeks since the experiment with being a family. Even mother's day had passed by, much to Val's unnoticing. She'd been distracted from life at home, mostly looking into, and around, this marriage thing.

She didn't get it. Of course, she hadn't considered going to read a book on it, but, she also assumed that wouldn't get her anywhere either.

Well, two weeks is plenty of procrastination on this topic... Though, surely her silence and pondering might've caused some concern with Kirimi and Neliel.]]

I'm sorry to be a bother while everyone's busy greeting the New Feathers, but I want to ask something. What's the purpose of marriage? I understand that it's what two people do when they love eachother enough, but, what makes it any different from being a boyfriend, or girlfriend.

Honestly, if you truly have no desire to be apart from the one you love, why is that something people resort too?

I suppose this last experiment left me a little confused about the subject. Not that... I'm opposed, mind you... That is... marrying Nel, but... I don't know why it's necessary...

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[Written]

[daisy023]

[...Well, it's been a while since Daisy has heard of Val. Still on the mountains, the ponders for a moment if she should reply, considering she made this trip to get away from everyone.

But remembers that Kippin told her that isn't quite the way to go.

She draws out her pen because, while she's been out of contact for over a week or so, she also has a thing for philosophy.]


Marriage is a social union between two partners, established as a formal contract for several reasons: legal, social, emotional, economical, spiritual, and religious. It's a legal way to share property, have a pact of intimacy, and bear legimitate offspring. [Beat.] Though in modern ages onwards ilegitimate children aren't frowned upon.

In old times, marriage was not forged by love, but arranged as a form of social and economical union between two families when both son and daughter were young. Love would come in later, by the bond both partners eventually forged when living under the same roof.

[She stops for a moment... Val may not notice it, but beyond the book definition, Daisy-023 has little understanding of it either, but she continues.]

In my world and age, marriage is agreed upon by two consenting adults, independent of the opinions and actions of other members of their families. It's an expression of loyalty in the filial sense, and in the legal one it is a pact of sharing and cohabitation. That the person will be the only one you treat in a truly romantic manner from that day forward. It's a way of showing that you belong to that person.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

[[Honestly, all that, while probably informative, is a lot to take in. Fortunately, Daisy took the time to write it out, so that Val might re-read it as necessary so that she'll understand it, rather than hearing it once and having to have the hiding SPARTAN explain it more than once.]]

This... last part... Well... That's not unlike having a girlfriend, is it? I mean, between myself and Nel... Is there much difference then?

[Written]

[daisy023]

[A pause.]

Probably not.

[Which shows how much she knows of the real thing, she thinks to herself.]

It's more symbolic than legal where I'm from. But even marriages can end with a divorce.

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[derek-bliss.livejournal.com]

Pretty much everything the first responder said, right down to the reasons in the past, with the added bit that when the whole thing first started up, it was as much of a way for the male part of the partnership to claim obvious ownership of the female, since women were still considered property at that point.

Currently though, at least where I'm from, it's both an expression of love and intent to stay with the person for the entirety of both of your lives, as well as a legal contract to ensure that if one of you dies, the other person can still retain all rights to any property and money left behind by the deceased.

Lot of people don't bother with it, though, even though there's still a large social push to make it the 'normal' status for co-habitating adults of opposite gender. There are other legal ways to make your significant other the recipient of your things if you die before them. And a lot of people dissolve the partnership after time, due to differences that they either can't or won't work through. That, too, though is a development that's pretty recent; used to be really frowned on if you left your spouse.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

Divorce? And that's... breaking up, I take it?

Well, breaking up... that's not connected to the other suddenly leaving. I wonder... Well... if it would be worth it...

[voice]

[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

That's quite a bit to take in all at once. I'm... despite my looks, not human. I'm quite... detached from human society, I suppose you could say. I'm still learning how they all fit in. But, my girlfriend is in the same position, being both detached and not human.

I suppose, we're a rather special case.

But, back on point then, she and I were "married" a while back... during the experiment. I love her, of course, but, I just didn't get if there was a difference being her girlfriend now, and being married.

All of those things you mentioned... would any of it matter, here and now? We came without anything, and we already share what we have. But... there's always that risk that one of us could leave suddenly

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[derek-bliss.livejournal.com]

Here? I think It's mostly what you put into it. There's really no laws set up for it, so you don't need the legal backup. And if it really has no meaning for you, then there's no point in worrying about it.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... I see. It's only, say, back where you're from that these things are important.

[[And here comes the kicker (And we're not trying to start up any drama, she means well)...]] Is it common for women to marry each other?

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[derek-bliss.livejournal.com]

[Derek isn't much for drama anyway. He will pause for a minute though while he tries to think of a way to put what he has to say.]

...not really. There's a lot of social monopoly going in in regards to same-gender marriages. Most places are just now grappling with the idea that it isn't some sort of aberration or mental illness...and before that, they were struggling with the idea that is wasn't evil and against God. Some places are trying to pass laws where it's legal, but it's not getting very far. There's probably at least another generation of strife that's going to go on over it before it becomes part of the 'acceptable' majority culture.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

That doesn't seem hardly fair at all.

You humans have so many confusing laws and traditions. I'm glad sometimes that I'm a bit outside the expectation of them. You're fun, but so confusing at the same time.

Well, like you said, none of those laws apply here, do they? Which means Nel and I are free to do as we like, hmm?

[voice]

[derek-bliss.livejournal.com]

Pretty much.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

I see. Well, thank you for explaining that though. It seems rather complicated, but in the end, it's just another expression of love.

[voice]

[derek-bliss.livejournal.com]

People do what they do.

You're welcome, and good luck to both of you.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

Thank you~

[gardenerofgaia.livejournal.com]

Resort to? They do it to show their commitment.

...You have someone like that here, though? How sweet.

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[daisy023]

It's the end of the agreement. [Again, book definition, but no life experiences.] But it's something like that.

In the end, marriage is a choice. An expression. One you are free to take.

[Choice.]

[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

But why is it different from the commitment of being girlfriends?

We were married during the last experiment. But we've been together for months.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

Hmm. So just another way to express it hmm.

Well, what do you think, Daisy? .

[Written]

[daisy023]

[A rather long pause. Even by her standards.]

I never thought about it before.

[At least she's being honest.]

If you and Nel like eachother, you could marry.

[...

Daisy wants to surpress the thought that, in that false life, she regretted that Valvalis got married after the soldier girl left.]

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

[[But this is not then. Were back t]o having Daisy being like another daughter, or sister, to Val.]]

I suppose we could, but I don't know how... Or why we should. I still worry that one of us will leave.

[Written]

[daisy023]

It's usually someone of authority, governmental or religious, who presides the ceremony. I bet there's at least one in Luceti.

[A pause. Sob, Daisy wonders why are you asking a social retard about this stuff.]

Reasons for marrying here?



Could be done if you love eachother, and if you two want it.

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

[[Because she is close to her like that. Daisy is human, so clearly, she knows these things by default!]]

Maybe I'll ask.. but do you think its a good idea... with the way people can suddenly leave here?

[Written]

[daisy023]

[Hahahahaha... Well, in Halo canon, if you are 7ft tall and can snap someone in half with BEAR HANDS, then you hardly qualify as human for some people there.

She sighs.]


I don't think so.


[Pay no heed to the text, Val. Daisy actually wonders what would it be like, even if she's thinking from a practical point of view.]

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[aero-dienamic.livejournal.com]

Really...

[[Of course, that's not the answer she wants to hear, despite how true it may be...]]

Well... all that aside... are you feeling better?

[Written]

[daisy023]

[Likewise, it isn't the reply she wanted to be taken seriously. Alas...]

Better. [The fact she replied is a good sign by itself.] I'm thinking more clearly now.



That spirit -Kipinn- tells me to drop the lone wolf stuff.

[This is probably the strangest thing she has ever written. It proves Daisy herself that either she's getting used to the supernatural, or that her sanity just commited suicide.]